Framus tenor, 19 fret banjo, 1970 vintage (sold) Used - Fair Condition / Country: United States - State: MO Last Updated 4/6/2019. $145.00: Framus “Old Time” Plectrum, ca. 1970, w/OHSC (expired) Used - Excellent Condition / Country: United States - State: NC Last Updated 3/30/2019. $575.00: 2 Derroll Adams Framus Nashville 5string openback banjos (expired). The only marking is the serial number and c68 number. He's had the instrument for several years. We've tried some of the local music shops, but no one has IDed it yet.
Previously posted on 'post a picture' board.
I am trying to find a bit of info about my instrument, I wonder if you can help? Or can point me in the right direction to find out?
I have attached a couple of photos and will tell you what little I know.
It is a Framus (label inside), I believe they went out of business in 1970. Slightly arched back. F holes. All original except the pickup(s) which are 2 precision bass pickups wired as a humbucker, the original would have been lipstick style. The tailpiece is very heavy and can take both ball and loop end strings. The label is somewhat faded but says:
Model: 78 D 042
Serial number: blank
Tested by: 02307
I have only seen a few others, one owned by a friend had teardrop holes, original pickup and a logo on the headstock, but a more modern tailpiece.
I bought mine from an instrument dealer in London England in 1990 and have played it a lot since. Unplugged it is a little quiet but incredibly loud when amplified, if a little heavy on the bass.
I am curious as to its age and I suppose a rough idea of value would be worth knowing. Although I have no wish to part with it.
Any help you can provide will be gratefully received.
Thanks,
Tim
Gibson serial numbers 1952 to 1961, solidbody model.
A number stamped with ink on the back of the headstock.
Gibson's solid bodys were released in 1952. Gibson did not use serial numbers at that time but started in 1953.
The first digit of the series number is the last digit of the year. If the stamped number consists of 5 digits, there is a space between the first and second digit (a separation between the last digit of the year and the actual serial number).
If it concerns a 6-digit serial number, there is no space, because the highest 4-digit number (9999) has been exceeded and the space therefore fills up. This was the case in the years 1955, 1956, 1959 and 1960.
In 1955, Gibson forgot to reset the series of serial numbers to 0001.
So they had only set the year from 4 to 5. For this reason the series of 4 digit serial numbers was exceeded after 9999.
Hence 5 digits and no space between the year (5) and the serial number. (after 5 9999 came 510 000)
Apparently the production was high in 1956 because 6 9999 is exceeded. Also in 1959 and 1960 there was a high production, 9 9999 is exceeded to 932 000 or higher.
Thus, from the production in 1959, a 1, 2 or 3 may be the second digit.
Gibson stopped the stamped serial numbers at the end of 1960, although a few instruments were made in 1961 with a 1 as a prefix. Some lap steels and Les Paul's from 1961 have such a serial number.
Another exception to the above rules is in the fall of 1958, where some Les Paul Juniors and Specials had a four-digit serial number.
1st digit | PRODUCTION YEAR |
None | 1952 |
3 | 1953 |
4 | 1954 |
5 | 1955 |
6 | 1956 |
7 | 1957 |
8 At the end of 1958, a number of LP Juniors/Specials had a four-digit serial number without a prior annual digit | 1958 |
9 | 1959 |
0 | 1960 |
1 (rare) | 1961 |
Gibson serial numbers, early to mid seventies.
From 1970 to 1975 the 6 digit serial numbers were randomly created.
Numbers were stamped on the back of the headstock in a random order. For some instruments preceded by a letter.
Gibson serial numbers, 1970-1975.
The same confusing six-digit serial system of the 1960s was maintained until 1975. This means that instruments with the same serial number can come from the 60s or 70s.
Guitars got six digits in random order, and in some cases they were preceded by a letter that did not seem to have meaning.
Note that the series between 1970 and 1975 can overlap the production from 1964 and 1965.
The table below shows the years to which the numbers can relate.
Seral number range | PRODUCTION YEAR |
000000 - 099999 | 1973 |
100000 - 199999 | 1970 - 1975 |
200000 - 299999 | 1973 - 1975 |
300000 - 399999 | 1974 - 1975 |
400000 - 499999 | 1974 - 1975 |
500000 - 599999 | 1974 - 1975 |
600000 - 699999 | 1970 - 1972 and 1974 - 1975 |
Serials 1977-2013.
Gibson's most sustainable numbering system was launched in 1977, an eight-digit number. The first and fifth digits represented the year of manufacture. The three intervening digits, the day of that year.
The digits six to eight indicated the sequence number.
After the opening of the new factory in Nashville, production was also included in the serial numbers. 001 to 499 appeared on instruments built in Kalamazoo, 500 to 999 built in Nashville.
Even after the Kalamazoo plant closed in 1984, this process continued until 1989 in Nashville.
The system was updated in 2005 when 1 digit was inserted at the end of the batch number. The sequence numbers ranged from 500 to 699, after which the batch number was increased by 1, and the sequence number went back to 500.
Gibson closed the Memphis plant in April 2019.
The production of 'USA made' solid body guitars is now only produced in Nashville.
Serial numbers 2014 to present.
Gibson's most simplest system was introduced in 2014. A nine-digit serial number stamped. The first two digits indicate the year, the rest is the serial number for all guitars produced that year.
Every year starts with serial 0000001.
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